He lived in retirement on
东山 in Kuaiji until past forty before agreeing to serve, which gave the idiom
东山再起 'to rise again from the Eastern Mountain', a comeback. In 383 the huge Former Qin army of
苻坚 was routed at the Fei River by troops under his nephew
谢玄. Reading the report over a game of weiqi, he only remarked that the youngsters had beaten the enemy, and played on.